Something To Think About:

Something To Think About:
Children are like wet cement, whatever falls on them makes an impression.

--Hiam Ginott

Sunday, November 30, 2008

Guess Who?

Grandma is working on some Christmas presents. She brought a bunch of pictures to have me go through with her. Here are some cute ones we found that we didn't realize were in the batch she brought! So see if you can guess who is who! Results in a few days.... left to right: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. (clue: 1986)
left to right: 1. 2. 3. (clue: December 3, 1966)

left to right: 1.2.3. (clue: 1978 family reunion)

Big Birthday Day


Happy Birthday to 3 aunties today!
Auntie Lisa
Aunt Ann
Aunt Jan
We love this day because you were born on it. We also love each of you! Have a fantastic day.

Saturday, November 29, 2008

Grandparents


Grandparents Are:
  • Very special
  • The fruit of the family tree
  • The family's strong foundation
  • Probably bigger softies than parents!
  • Especially important at this time of life
  • A valuable legacy
  • Often nonjudgemental and accepting of mistakes
  • Those people who take care of you and love you
  • The family symbol of both the past and the future

WE LOVE YOU GRANDMA AND GRANDPA!

Name That Beverage!

Name the beverage in this glass and who it belongs to!
(Hint: look for the tell-tale clues!)

Friday, November 28, 2008

....birthday party

...we celebrated with dinner at one of our favorites: Tucanos. They were ready for us! Haha! We had Christine's birthday card and had told them when we made our 'large party' reservation that it was her big day. We hit the buffet and then the servers started coming around. Most of us have our favorites. Robert: Garlic Sirloin. Duff: Teriyaki Beef. Meredith & Natalie: Bacon wrapped turkey. Cindy: Teriyaki Beef, Top Sirloin. Shaun and Christine: Brisket.
Christine doing the birthday dance to the drummers. She was such a good sport. The whole restaurant applauded her. Our waitress told her that most people won't dance, so that was why she had so much attention!
The musical entertainment!
She is a chocolate girl. This is what she chose for her dessert: Death By Chocolate Cake. It was soooo big that we all helped her finish it.
Then the 'girls' hopped in one car and went to see Twilight. So we can officially say we have been 'Twilighted'! The 'guys + Grandma' went in another to Costco to get her prescription refilled and head back up to the cabin for the Celtics and Lakers basketball games. Here we are after the movie. I am taking the picture--of course!

From what I hear from ALL sources, Grandma completely enjoyed her time in the car as the only female! The men were completely engaged in 'male' conversation and Grandma joined right in! That is soooo not like her 'proper'-ness. It will be a memory forever. LOTS of teasing and laughing.

Home and time for some presents. Meredith and Auntie and Gma and Gpa hooked her up with Twilight bracelets, calendar, CD, book. Robert/Nats got her new headphones for her ipod. She got a Christmas snowglobe for her collection from Duff and I along with a small cast iron pan so she can make her own individual pizookies!

Happy Birthday Christine!

Happy Birthday CHRISTINE!

Happy Birthday to our Christine. Wow, 14 years old! What a fun time to have a birthday because you get to celebrate with everyone who is here for Thanksgiving! That is dang lucky!

We woke up to a dusting of snow everywhere. FINALLY!

Celebrating to come....

Thursday, November 27, 2008

Thanksgiving Doin's

What a fun day! Full of togetherness. Everyone trickled up or down the stairs, depending on where they are in the cabin. Lots of pj's and sweats. Bed hair. Cereal for breakfast because we had appetizers at 11. Showers finally. Dinner at 5pm. The pictures are not in order, but here goes:
Meredith making her homemade cranberry sauce. It was delish! The wonderful men-folk doing all the clean-up. Aren't they wonderful?
Robert, the newest member of the family having his tasting of the 'red cabbage'. He liked it. Duff and Grandma were thrilled. Mere and Adrianne don't. That's okay. It's definitely a German acquired taste!
Christine, Meredith, Natalie deep into a Scrabble game.
We drew names for Christmas. Lots of hoots and hollers and whispering to each other about possible presents.

We put the tree up. Adrianne and Meredith doing the final branch adjustment. This is the very first artificial tree we have ever had. I'm glad Mere knew how to put it together! I was at a loss. It looks dang pretty! Grandma did her bow 'magic' and we now have a beautiful bow at the top.

Adrianne serenading us with some Thanksgiving tunes on the piano.

Josh and Duff taking their turn basting the turkey. I love that my boys know how to cook.

The traditional shrimp platter.

Relish plate, rolled lil' smokies, stuffed mushrooms.

After dinner games. Grandma and Grandpa have really gotten into board games. They meet once a month with Auntie/Uncle Craig and Arlene and Ronda Reading for dinner and games. The Reading's are from our long ago days in Torrance. Arlene has buried two husbands and Ronda was one of Lisa's best friends forever. She is still single after all these years. I don't understand why. She is AMAZING.

Anyway--we have played Mexican Train dominoes forever. Gma and Gpa have learned recently. So we had a whopping round of it. Mere was the winner. Grandpa was the 'caboose'.

Grandpa and Duff (not in the pic but to the left) carved up the two turkeys we cooked.

The gang at the table. We also had Chris Dallies joining us.

Grandpa, Grandma and Duff
Dessert time. Pumpkin (courtesy of Costco), Apple, Banana Cream, Pecan

We sat at the table for a long time after and just talked. I agree with Roberta, this is a lost art. Then we did the ABC's of Thanksgiving. (coming in another post)

HAPPY THANKSGIVING

Wishing you all a very Happy Thanksgiving!
"Count your blessings, name them one by one,
Count your many blessings
See what God has done."

"Thanksgiving is a time for togetherness... it's an occasion to be spent in the warm and loving company of family, loved ones and friends, enjoying our favorite holiday foods and memories with them. Thanksgiving is also an opportunity to renew the ties that bind us with the ones we love... it is a time for remembering, cherishing and being thankful for all the good things you have been blessed with."

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Over The River and Through The Skies...

...the children have arrived!

Everyone is here now. It feels good. Darla kept running to each one. Someday I'd love to get inside her brain and understand how she 'knows' what it is she knows about all of us. She just knows all of her family.

Grandma and I had to make another run to Smith's. There has been so much going on with the remodel that Duff ended up with Nats, Christine, and Grandpa back in Orem for some items, and that left Gma and I to get the final preparations done for the big day tomorrow. I gave up on the homemade pie crust and rolls this year. I had to decide how I was going to balance everything. In the kitchen ALL day and night, or Rhodes rolls and Marie Callender frozen pie crust. Hmmm. Hands in front of me weighing it out. One hand up, the other down. Then reverse, as I talked myself through the two options. So off to Smiths with a prayer in my heart that they weren't out. YES! Plenty. Whew!

Rhodes and MC won. This way I can be with the family and visit! I got the stuffing done and in ziploc bags ready to go in the 'bird' tomorrow. I put Grandma on the red cabbage. The house was full of holiday aromas. Got the pecan, pumpkin, and apple pies made. Okay, not quite the same as homemade crust, but not bad.

Tortilla soup for dinner, very tasty and hit the spot with the cold and fall weather. I've also discovered the already made tortilla strips for a garnish in the produce section. They are awesome!

Duff and Christine took off for the airport to gather up the 2 remaining couples. They came in within an hour of each other from 2 different states. It was heaven to get them here. They couldn't have come if they couldn't fly, so today I am very grateful for air travel, and the great bargain it is when you book 2 months early!

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Errands '2'squared

I'm falling down on the picture taking part of blogging these days. I'll try to do better.

....but what a day! I should definitely sleep good tonight!

Grandma decided she wanted to try and go with me to run errands. We rarely get to spend any one on one time together and this was a treat. She felt better this morning and was determined to get out of the house. I was a little concerned about her doing too much too soon, but she kept assuring me she was up to it.

There was a lot on the list. Once you go down the canyon you need to make sure you hit everything on the list so you don't have to go back down. This little town up here is growing, but doesn't have it all, which is not necessilarily a negative thing. We love the small town feel, but it does mean you have to plan to do errands.

Off we went at 10am-ish. Chilly, icy ride down the canyon. I learned something new about our car: the outside thermometer tells you if the road has ice, snow, etc. That was cool! We listened to Christmas music. My mom instilled in us a deep love of holiday music. We have our favorites.

Stops on the list:
  • Borders bookstore. Looking for a bday gift for Christine and the Dan In Real Life movie. Mom found the present, no movie.
  • Williams-Sonoma. A favorite of the Davis women. Not that we shop there on any kind of a regular basis--pricey--but you just feel good when you've walked through it all and taken it all in. We do have some kitchen items from them that were well worth the cost. We took our time, savoring it all. This is in an outdoor shopping center and when we parked the car and opened the door the smells of holiday foods wafted outside to greet us! They know how to 'get ya'. Of course it was all decked out for Thanksgiving. I got the turkey gravy base that I splurge on for our Thanksgiving dinner and the soap/lotion sets for the kitchens downstairs that I needed. We sampled a delicious dressing recipe, cranberry relish, pumpkin peanut brittle, peppermint bark, mulled apple cider, and a pecan pumpkin butter cake that was to die for! We got the recipes for the dressing and the cake and splurged on a can of the mulling spices. I don't think I'll actually use them for cider, but to simmer on the stove. The aroma is intoxicating. Off to...
  • Roberts craft store. I was on the hunt for ribbon for the family craft. Of course, Grandma was in heaven. Those are her kind of stores. She and Lisa and Sue have the crafty genes. They did not get passed to me. I am a structured, methodical, copier type of crafter. My mom gets into a store like that and her imagination just runs. You can see the wheels turning. Not a great selection of ribbon. I had something in my head and didn't see it. So, off to...
  • Michael's. Yay! Found the ribbon I was looking for. Glue sticks, battery tealights, embroidery hoops, embroidery needles. Next stop....
  • Distribution Center. Duff and I needed some 'unmentionables'. Next door is....
  • Deseret Book. Got the Christmas books for the kids. Each year I get them a new one. One day they should have a nice collection, hopefully. My platinum account was messed up so they fixed that by combining all our random accounts and I had a lot of points which made the cost go way down. That was exciting. I found a great gift for Duff for his Christmas present, so that is now done. I was so excited with the find. The phone rang and it was Natalie, so...
  • Beto's. We were starving. It was 2pm and we hadn't eaten since the morning. We split a bacon breakfast burrito from the drive-thru, while on the way to...
  • Natalie and Roberts apartment. Grandma just had to see where they were making their first home. We stayed only about 15 minutes. Robert was at work, and she was packing to come up for the weekend. It is a really cute place and they have it very cozy and homey. The clock was ticking and we headed for...
  • Costco. By this time we were both dragging. Got my second wind. Grandma was mesmerized by all the ribbon and decorations and that gave her her 2nd wind! I stuck to the list. We did, however, go down every aisle, dream and comment. They packed our boxes so heavy that we couldn't load them in the car, and a really nice man walked by and loaded our goods for us. Back up the canyon for...
  • Cabin. It was now 5:30pm. Everyone helped us unload and we put it all away, made tacos for dinner, and watched Brooke and Derek take home the mirrored ball trophy as the winners on DWTStars. Grandma was showing me all the family pictures she brought for me to help her with and all of a sudden she wasn't making ANY sense. Grandpa came over and asked her if she had taken her 'pill' the doctor has her on for her fybromyalgia to help her sleep. She had and she was loopy! He was barely able to get her down the stairs. She was totally not making any sense and provided us all with some light entertainment! She will most likely not remember a thing in the morning. It's good she can laugh at herself.

Happy Birthday Uncle Mike D.

A birthday 'shout out' to our Uncle Mike Davis. We love this guy. He is a Cougar fan! Haha! We love him for more than that! He is a great person. Kind, loving, good husband to Aunt Jan, and great father to Jacob, little Josh, and James-y boy.

Thanks for all your help getting us cars when we come into town. We wish you a very happy birthday today. Here is your song:
Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday, Uncle Mike,
Happy Birthday to YOU!

Monday, November 24, 2008

C R A Z Y--ness!

Today was C R A Z Y .

Duff, Shaun, and Grandpa headed to Provo so Shaun could sign his housing contract for next semester and so they could check out the TV situation for the game room. Lucky ducks, they got El Azteca for lunch. That place has been around since before I went to college. Must be because they have yummy food. Hole in the wall places are like that!

Grandma is starting to mend. She got dressed today. We gals stayed home because:
  1. The plumber came to move the pipes for the bathroom faucets to go in so the tile setter can come and grout everything on Friday.
  2. He fixed Christine's bathroom showerhead so she gets more water pressure
  3. He fixed the r.o. system in the main kitchen
  4. Contractor came to hook up the thermostat in the game room so we don't freeze our tushes off down there!
  5. Furniture was delivered early to the game room. Goodness gracious it is finally almost done. It looks fabulous, is comfy, and a perfect fit!
  6. Nicole came and brought all of the pillows, etc. and we walked it all and made a punch list.
  7. Did laundry.
  8. Made dinner.
  9. Decorated the mantle and staircase for the holiday.
  10. ...and of course had to watch DWTStars! I want Brooke and Derek to win. Grandpa wants Warren Sap. Duff wants Warren. Grandma and Christine are with me on Brooke, although Chris likes Lacey Schwimmer, too.

Sunday, November 23, 2008

....now we 'rest' from every care!

We all slept in, but not as long as Grandma and Grandpa! We were on our way to church at 11am when I went down to check on them and they were still sound asleep. They needed it! Grandma is really battling this respiratory flu. She is on her 2nd Z-pack, so this is obviously viral, but I'm sure since she was traveling her doctor wanted her to have the antibiotics to guard against any infections. They stayed home, which was good for them, and rested. Grandpa is taking good care of her.

Church was great. Good lessons and it was their primary program which I was thrilled to see, since I missed ours at home. It is so fun to see everyone's different way to do the program. This did not disappoint. The RS had just had an activity and had some extra pillow kits, so I nabbed some for all of us. I don't know if the gals will get to them this holiday, but we will see. They are totally cute and easy to do!

Sunday Gravy for dinner and we had a house full. Reminds me of when I grew up. Last minute company at dinner time. My mom always could stretch a meal to accomodate all who showed up at our kitchen. This has passed down to us and Lisa too. 3 of Shaun's friends came up and the doorbell rang and it was Natalie and Robert who drove up to surprise us and have dinner with us! What a great surprise. We didn't think we'd see them for a couple more days!

Then the long awaited season opener of 24. It didn't disappoint! I'm still trying to figure all the connections out, but they will unfold come January. Shaun totally called Jack taking the kids to the embassy and then having to give himself up and go back to the US.

OH MY! And Tony is 'back' from the dead!? Can't wait to see that storyline!

Christine and Grandpa made chocolate-chip cookie dough together in the kitchen and then baked a pizookie. I didn't even get one picture of that. What was I thinking???? It was a totally sweet (no pun intended) moment.

Saturday, November 22, 2008

It Wasn't To Be!

They call this the 'Holy War'. Haha! One of the biggest in-state rivalries in the country. We have been victorious the last two years, but this time it wasn't to be. Dang it!

We got the list made and the grocery shopping done early in the day so we would be ready for the big game. No tickets this year, so it was tv watching, which has it good points and bad points. But in the store it was clearly divided: most people were either in blue and white or red and black! Even their little kids and babies were dressed in the parents choice of school colors! Everyone was very civil in the check-out lines. I do want to mention that ALL of the BYU ice-cream was gone, unlike the Utah ice-cream which was still on the shelf. Does that equal more Y fans? I hope so!
Christine in her BYU gear ready for the game!
It was a great game until our quarterback imploded. The turnovers sealed the Utes victory. Their defense knew exactly how our q.b. was going to throw the ball and did a good job of reading that and making interceptions. It cost us the game.

On to next year. As usual, it will build until the last conference game of the season! We love it!

Assassination of A President

Today is the anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. He was the nation's president. He was on a trip to Dallas, Texas and was riding in an open top motorcade and was shot to death by Lee Harvey Oswald from the upper rooms of a building.
Above, is a picture of the Kennedy's arriving in Dallas that morning. I remember this day. I was in the 2nd grade and Mrs. Gaddy was my teacher. We were just doing regular afternoon studies when our principal, Mr. Marich, came into the classroom. When you are in the 2nd grade, the principal doesn't just pop into your class unless there is something important going on. He asked Mrs. Gaddy to step outside. After a few minutes, they came back in and she was crying. She asked the class to give our attention to Mr. Marich. He told us, very tenderly I remember, that the president had died. I felt sick to my stomach. 7 year olds are sensitive to that kind of information. It wasn't until later after I got home from school that I learned what had really happened from my parents.
The President and his wife, Jackie, in the motorcade right before the shooting.


Thinking back on that now, I'm really grateful for the respect my school leaders had to leave the details of something like that to the parents.

I remember the arrest of the assassin, and then his murder on live television by Jack Ruby while he was being moved from one place to another. That was SHOCKING tv back then! I've never forgotten those images and feelings.

Friday, November 21, 2008

The Long and Winding Road

ST. George or BUST! Made it by midnight yesterday. Checked into the hotel. Grandma and Grandpa met us there early this morning and they joined us for our complimentary breakfast and we got on the road. Grandpa kept up with dad amazingly well. He is so excited for this trip he is like a teenager all over again!

Arrived to a crew of workers. Funny how when the owners are coming into town the beehive gets buzzing! But the rooms are finally coming together and look like rooms again.

COLD. Cold. cold. cold. Everything is officially dead and gray except for pine trees. Snow on all the mountaintops. More expected over Thanksgiving itself! Yes, you're welcome. We ordered it!

Cabin is cozy and warm.

Christine went with Larissa H. and her cousin to see Twilight! They are still gone and I'm sure she will be very excited when she gets home. I will see it when the lines aren't long anymore. Probably next week.

The long and winding road led right to our door!

Thursday, November 20, 2008

Fall Poetry


Oh, delicious autumn!
My soul is wedded to thee.
If I were a bird,
I'd fly around
Seeking successive autumns.....


I don't know who the author of this verse is--I found it in some notes of mine-- but I LOVE it! The words sum up how I feel about the fall season. I was out watering this morning and you can just feel it in the air, see it in the change of the position of the sun, the gentle fall breeze...

Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Miscellaneous

Last night we had our quarterly enrichment night. It was so much fun! We have good leaders in our ward over this. We had some 'crafts', which were more like home decorations for the holidays, and a great display and class on gifts for neighbors, friends, teachers, etc. and how to 'present' them. I learned a lot. Everyone worked hard and I think we all got our projects done. Some didn't sign up for anything but brought something of their own to do like knitting or crocheting. We all got caught up on our visiting!

Christine and Amanda worked with Madison to watch the children in the nursery. It is good for them to give service. Lots of holiday cookies for treats.

Today, Duff and I divided up the errands. We got them done quick! Most importantly for me was that I got all the 'stuff' for the Thanksgiving craft that we do each year. I'm in charge this year. I've known what I wanted to do for some time now, but putting it all together is a different story! We are making christmas banners to go across a doorway or a mirror, etc. I'll be sure to take pictures when we make them! Such a relief that is done!!!

Tonight Christine is at YW. I made some very yummy pork ribs for dinner and called Mike and Adrianne over to help us eat them. Adrianne and I worked together to get the kitchen cleaned up and then we all sat down to visit and had a tv program on. I think it was a game. The phone rang, and it was Lisa. She had just hung up with her boss who called to let her know that he was letting her and another gal 'go'! The nerve to do that on the phone! He has been difficult to work with from the gitgo, but Lisa is tough and a great administrator. He expected her to know everything his previous assistant knew in two months when the other gal had worked for him for 20 years! So now we are hoping they can jump in the car and come for Thanksgiving! We are crossing our fingers..........

We LOVE YOU AUNTIE!

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Question: Need Input


Okay. I cleaned the fireplace out yesterday. I really dislike that job, and it always falls to me, because nobody else cares if there are ashes in it.


My whole family loves the look and feel and idea of a real wood fire. But nobody takes care of the clean-up, the logs outside, the mess from bringing them in from out. Once the fire is going, I end up taking care of it and stoking it. I order the wood each year, except once when Mike did it.

I want to get a gas unit. We are already plumbed for a gas unit. Every time I bring this up the family goes ballistic! I grew up with a gas unit and loved it. It is clean, you still get the ambience, if I want to turn it on in the morning of a rainy, cold day, I can and then turn it off when I have to go run errands or something. If I start a 'real' fire, I have to wait for it to burn out.

We have a gas unit at the cabin, and I love it. Turn it on and enjoy!

Is emergency preparedness a factor in this? What if we needed to cook?

What do you think I should do?

Monday, November 17, 2008

Monday Menu

What a day!
  • Garbage cans out.
  • Sweep up garbage can area behind the gate.
  • Wash out kitchen garbage cans and dust pan.
  • Clean out kitchen trash cupboard.
  • Wash down driveway from all the leaves, debis and dust from Santa Anas
  • Clean gutter in the street in front of our house.
  • Water all the pots, well.
  • Work in the garden, what's left of it.
  • Clean out the fireplace--nasty job!
  • Vacuum tufting in ottomen--large!
  • Bag 50 lbs. of chocolate chips into 5 lb. increments and freeze.
  • Clean out garage freezer for the chocolate chips.
  • Wipe down outside of front door.
  • Play with the dog.
  • Laundry.
  • Pick up carpool.
  • Dinner.
  • FHE.
  • DWTStars.
  • 5 word searches--I'm trying to keep my mind alert! haha!
  • BED!

007 Quantom Of Solace--James Bond

James Bond, baby!

Oooooh. We went and saw this on Saturday night with Mike and Adrianne. We picked them up after I got the weekly shopping done. (Which btw, was a frustrating experience. The entire store is ripped up and nothing is where it was or where I would think it should be. They had to have employees standing at the end of each aisle to help customers with a directory. It was crazy frustrating.)

Went to Kaleidiscope. I have never been there! Hard to believe, huh? It was fun. Loved the movie. Then we went to this hole in the wall BBQ place over by their apartment for some dinner since we went to the 4:45 show. It was really good. We just sat and visited and had a very nice time with them. We need to do that more often. Adrianne and I both LOVE cornbread. Mike and Duff not so much. They had good cornbread there. Kind of a cake-like texture.

Grandma Duff


Well, today Grandma would have been 77. I'm sure she is happy and busy in Heaven! It's hard to believe she has been gone 10 months already. I am remembering her crackily voice when she would call and sing happy birthday to each of us.


What do you remember from Grandma today on her birthday?

For Posterity 10

M E R I D I A N M A G A Z I N E
Religious Leaders and the Protect Marriage Coalition Leadership Unite against Vicious Attacks by Prop 8 Opponents


See the press conference here.

Friday, leaders representing the broad coalition of Californians who supported Proposition 8 called on leaders of the No on Proposition 8 campaign, in addition to Senator Diane Feinstein and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, to denounce the attacks against citizens who supported the constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

"Amidst all this lawlessness, harassment, trampling of civil rights and now domestic terrorism, one thing stands out: the deafening silence of our elected officials. Not a single elected leader has spoken out against what is happening. Where is Governor Arnold Schwarzenengger while churches are being attacked? And where is Senator Dianne Feinstein while people are losing their jobs and grandmothers are being bullied by an angry mob?" said Campaign Co-Manager Frank Schubert.

The statement was made at the first press conference of the Protect Marriage coalition since election night when Proposition 8 was passed by California voters with 52.5% of the vote. In the past ten days, hostility has increased against people whose only offense was to exercise their right to participate in the political process.

Some of the outrageous activities include:

In Sacramento, a musical theater director was forced to resign after he was blacklisted for contributing $1000 to the initiative;

A Mexican restaurant in Los Angeles has been boycotted after a relative of the owner donated to the coalition;

Numerous churches have had their property defaced;

And an unknown white powder was mailed to several LDS temples and the National Headquarters of the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic organization that supported the campaign.
The leadership of the ProtectMarriage.com coalition, a group of interfaith religious leaders, community leaders from a wide range of ethnic groups, and approximately 500 supporters of Yes on Proposition 8 gathered in Santa Ana to voice their opposition to the increasing attacks and harassment against supporters of traditional marriage.

Speaking on behalf of the African American community, Pastor Ed Smith of the Zoe Christian Fellowship of Whittier said: "Marriage is important to members of all faiths and all communities, but an election was held, the outcome was fair and people throughout California should honor it."
"For 14 months, we have been called bigots and hatemongers and we have not retaliated against these unprecedented attacks," Pastor Jim Garlow said. "But we will not be silenced."

For Posterity9--Church Statement

M E R I D I A N M A G A Z I N E

First Presidency Urges Respect, Civility in Public Discourse

Five months ago, the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent a letter to members of the Church in California, encouraging them to join the millions of other Californians from many religious denominations, ethnic groups and political persuasions in a broad coalition to defend marriage as it has been defined for millennia.

During the election campaign, both sides of the argument on Proposition 8 had ample opportunities to express their viewpoint. The result was conclusively in favor of traditional marriage. More than 40 states in the United States have now voted to protect traditional marriage, either directly or through their elected representatives.

Today the First Presidency issued this statement about the democratic process:
Since the people of California voted to reaffirm the sanctity of traditional marriage between a man and a woman on November 4, 2008, places of worship have been targeted by opponents of Proposition 8 with demonstrations and, in some cases, vandalism. People of faith have been intimidated for simply exercising their democratic rights. These are not actions that are worthy of the democratic ideals of our nation. The end of a free and fair election should not be the beginning of a hostile response in America.

The Church is keenly aware of the differences of opinion on this difficult and sensitive matter. The reasons for this principled stand in defense of marriage have already been articulated elsewhere. However, some of what we have seen since Californians voted to pass Proposition 8 has been deeply disappointing.

Attacks on churches and intimidation of people of faith have no place in civil discourse over controversial issues. People of faith have a democratic right to express their views in the public square without fear of reprisal. Efforts to force citizens out of public discussion should be deplored by people of goodwill everywhere.

We call upon those who have honest disagreements on this issue to urge restraint upon the extreme actions of a few that are further polarizing our communities and urge them to act in a spirit of mutual respect and civility towards each other.

For Posterity 8--The Battle Continues

M E R I D I A N M A G A Z I N E
The Battle Continues By Paul Bishop


While the protest outside the Los Angeles Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Temple I spoke of last week was the largest we have experienced, protests and demonstrations have continued – and the hatred of the Adversary has manifested itself in many other ways.

Continuing To Live In Interesting Times

Wednesday, November 12, 2008. It had been six days since the first No On 8 demonstrations outside the Los Angeles Temple, and the tom-toms of political activism were working themselves into a frenzy. Anticipation was rampant regarding further widespread demonstrations.

The LA Weekly 's blog warned: “Tonight, at 5 p.m., endH8now will make a debut of sorts at the Los Angeles Mormon Temple on Santa Monica Boulevard in Westwood. The press release from endH8now says No on 8 supporters can expect a ‘colorful protest,' [endH8now spokesman] Sanchez promises a big surprise."

Everything in LA starts with a press release – even the debut of hate masquerading as ending hate.

Other venues in Los Angeles were also being targeted: CBS Television Studios, The Grove (an exclusive shopping mall), the radio station KEARTH 101, and others – all targets because owners, or high profile individuals within the organizations, were known to have contributed financial aid to the Yes on 8 coffers.

Saints from many stakes had been asked to spend the night at ward buildings and stake centers to protect them from vandalism. While last week's protest was centered around the LA Temple, last Sunday, handfuls of protestors appeared outside local ward buildings.

During the past week there have been uncountable incidents of the Adversary's temper tantrums – everything from a local LDS lawyer whose firm received threatening phone calls, to hate mail sent to many members who openly supported Proposition 8, to envelopes of white powder delivered to both the Los Angeles Temple and to Church headquarters in Salt Lake carrying the threat of biological anthrax attacks.

These last incidents caused evacuations, closures, and incipient dread in those Church and temple workers who were exposed to the spilled powder. It doesn't matter the powder tested as non-toxic – the fear it caused was incomprehensively toxic.

Stories were shared of LDS youth in California and elsewhere being targeted on school grounds for taunts and physical attacks because of their religious convictions. It is not enough our youth stand out because of their standards. Now they must face ridicule and the threat or application of violence because of their beliefs. Where are those who would rally to them? Ah, that's right, they are rallying to the cause of the minorities of gay students whom our youth – who are not even old enough to vote – have attacked with intolerance .

In a Mormon Times column, Orson Scott Card pointed out the integrity of young single adults who heeded the call to participate in the defense of marriage. Many of them suffered bitter recriminations and turned backs. As Card points out these young people “were open-minded enough to be friends with people whose lives were so different from their own; but their friends, in the name of tolerance, could not remain friends with Mormons who merely stood up for their faith.”

Our opponents in this battle have chosen to call us the haters . That way the label is already taken and cannot be applied to them without making us look like copycat name callers.

Shocked And Appalled

We are shocked by all this because, for the most part, this generation of saints has not lived through this type of persecution. We have become comfortable. After all, we are living in America – land of the free – this shouldn't happen to us. But just because it s houldn't doesn't mean it couldn't. All we need do is look to Church history.

However, in the face of the ongoing turmoil, it is perhaps time to step back in an effort to gain a calming perspective.

In regards to the incidents of white powder sent to the LA Temple and Church headquarters, the Church has responded in its usual calm and reasoned manner stating, “attacks on churches and intimidation of people of faith have no place in civil discourse over controversial issues.”
What we need to understand from this statement is the sentiment applies not just to our opponents – it is a vital theme for our own actions.

Protecting The TempleThe scenes of people protesting outside the Los Angeles Temple and committing acts of minor vandalism are agitating. However, we must never forget it is Christ's temple. He is with us there. He is not of this world, and neither are we when we follow him. Rabble at the gate doesn't even register on an eternal scale.

We can be upset, yet firm in the knowledge Heavenly Father's plan is perfect and all things work according to it.

I received an e-mail this week from a Los Angeles Temple worker who was on the grounds during the large initial protest. His testimony of the minor miracles occurring in the serenity of the grounds while surrounded by nay-sayers was extremely edifying:

“What we saw was the Lord extend his hand to protect His Holy House. His instruments were the LAPD [Los Angeles Police Department] and others . . . two quick stories: One LAPD officer came to Temple Security and said, "I feel something special here." Another LAPD officer came to Temple Security and said, "I have always closed my door to your Missionaries. Now it will be open." There was turmoil and chaos, but the still, small, voice was heard last Thursday at the Temple.”

The Lord's work not only continues during times of chaos and persecution, it expands. In some fashion, we must realize the louder and more ferocious the tantrum thrown by the Adversary – and these current events are surely a display of his temper – the higher the Christ's glowing presence rises.

The Opposition

Those who oppose us in this controversy are not evil. They are the same spirits who stood shoulder to shoulder with us, and with Christ, our elder brother, during the war in Heaven. Like us, they freely chose mortality as a way to obtain a body and journey back to Father. They are saved through the same grace, the same atonement, though which each of us is saved.

The Adversary and his minions do not now, nor will they ever, possess a mortal body of their own. Their demonic spirits may flit around the edges of the mob attempting to exert evil influences, but they are not numbered among those brothers and sisters in Christ whose current petulance springs from emotional pain, frustration, and misunderstanding.

While the choices of those opposing us have been different than ours, unless our LDS calling requires us to be a judge in Zion, it is not our place to sit in judgment. And even if our calling requires us to be a judge in Zion, our judgments will be righteous only if made after prayerful searching to understand Christ's will and are made within the scope of our stewardship.

While we may have chosen to believe marriage is to be only between a man and a woman, this is only one grain of sand on the beaches of decisions we face each day. None of us are complete paragons of virtue. All of us sin. All of us added blood sweating pain to the atonement through which Christ passed for our sake.

As we each desire not to be judged by the unrighteous, so must we refrain from unrighteous judgment.

Our Prophet Joseph Smith points us to the way:

“I am a lover of the cause of Christ and of virtue, chastity, and an upright, steady course of conduct and a holy walk. I despise a hypocrite or a covenant breaker. I judge them not; God shall judge them according to their works. I am a lover even of mine enemies, for an enemy seeketh to destroy openly. I can pray for those who despitefully use and persecute me . . .”
– Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, ed. Dean C. Jessee (2002), 272; spelling and punctuation modernized.

And further:

“Father, forgive me my trespasses as I forgive those who trespass against me, for I freely forgive all men. If we would secure and cultivate the love of others, we must love others, even our enemies as well as friends. . . . I possess the principle of love. All I can offer the world is a good heart and a good hand. The Saints can testify whether I am willing to lay down my life for my brethren. If it has been demonstrated that I have been willing to die for a "Mormon", I am bold to declare before Heaven that I am just as ready to die in defending the rights of a Presbyterian, a Baptist, or a good man of any other denomination. . . . It is a love of liberty which inspires my soul.” – History of the Church, 5:498.

And on the Lord's work in times of confusion:

“Persecution has not stopped the progress of truth, but has only added fuel to the flame, it has spread with increasing rapidity. Proud of the cause which they have espoused, and conscious of our innocence, and of the truth of their system, amidst calumny and reproach, have the Elders of this Church gone forth, and planted the Gospel in almost every state in the Union . . . It has also spread into England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales” – History of the Church, 4:540.

One sister send an email to Meridian regarding her actions in the wake of the temple protests:
“While at the temple I wrote something on the prayer role (though unusual, it wasn't meant with any disrespect). I wrote "Opposed to Prop 8" and "Affirmative to Prop 8". It was my feeling that all of us need the love and support and prayers to our Heavenly Father that we can get at this time. It gave me a feeling of peace and I hoped that through the prayers, I might come to a greater understanding of the hurt the opposition is feeling.”

If we were to all follow this sister's response, surely the windows of Heaven would open and blessings be showered upon us.

Righteous AngerI'm not sure I like the term righteous anger. I think it's an oxymoron. In LDS terms, I think it is best expressed by stealing a favorite phrase and calling it an oxy mormon.

We are told Christ displayed righteous anger when he chased the moneylenders from the temple. If that is true, then as in many other things, he may be the only being pure enough to be truly righteous in anger. I believe we are wrong to think God's anger is identical to our own as fallen mortals because we don't understand correctly the nature of divine anger.

For those of us in this mortal realm, anger and righteousness are most often opposite terms. Righteous anger is a controlled response to an unrighteous situation, however, not the kind of emotional outbursts most of us are all too familiar with.

In another recent Mormon Times column, writer Jerry Johnson points out:

“There's one oxymoron that should be a bigger chuckle than it is. That's the notion of Angry Mormon. That should be a real contradiction in terms . . . When we get angry, we turn other people into targets. They flatten out and lose their humanity. Just as soldiers have to de-humanize enemy soldiers in order to shoot them, in order to lash out at others in anger, we must make them less than human in our minds.”

We cannot allow anger to make us retaliate with the same tactics of our opponents. Elder Dallin H. Oaks offers a helpful insight about how we can use prayer to avoid anger and govern our undesirable feelings:

“My widowed mother understood this principle. ‘Pray about your feelings,' she used to say. She taught her three children to pray for the right kind of feelings about their experiences—positive or negative—and about the people they knew. If our feelings are good, we are more likely to have appropriate desires, to take right actions, and to act for the right reasons.”

In this case, love is the right reason. When we act out of love, hearts are softened. I think of the LDS woman who approached the protestors outside the Los Angeles Temple to distribute cookies. Her act of love was perhaps the most Christlike action of the day.

No Misconceptions

Let's be clear, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not hate gays. In fact, the Church acknowledges that individuals may be attracted to the same gender. What the Church cares about is how you act on those desires – be you heterosexual or homosexual.

As a member of the Church, you are expected to live the law of chastity. You are expected to keep yourself morally clean in thought and action.

Is this difficult? Yes. Do we sometimes fail in our attempts to live up to these expectations? Yes. Is there a process to redemption and forgiveness when we fail? Without question.

Is all of this exponentially harder if your desires for intimate physical encounters involve the same sex? Absolutely.

A single, heterosexual, Latter-day Saint is not expected to engage in pre-marital sex. But he or she can certainly enjoy physical intimacy once they are married to a member of the opposite sex.
It can be much harder for a single Latter-day Saint who is drawn or compelled toward gay or lesbian relationships. They are not only expected not to engage in pre-marital sex, but must not follow their same-gender impulses throughout their lives. How great are the Saints in this position who understand what is required of them and have the fortitude to stand firm.
How great their reward beyond the veil when all will be made as it should be.

The bottom line remains – marriage is to be between a man and a woman. Secular arguments do not trump spiritual imperatives.

Sexual orientation is not a requirement for Church membership. The actions of each member determines their individual temple recommend and righteousness in living.

An Unchanging Gospel

Even if Proposition 8 is overturned in the courts and same sex marriages receive legal secular recognition, the gospel of the Church will not change. Let me repeat, secular arguments do not trump spiritual imperatives.

The gospel of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints , and of many other Christian and other faith based churches, do not and will not recognize marriage other than between a man and a woman. This will never change.

Does this mean there may be hard times ahead for for the Church, for individual Latter-day Saints, and for churches and members of other faiths? Without question. Everything we believe will be challenged and attacked.

Our defense, however, is impenetrable.

Our defense is Christ.

What Did We Expect?

Of the hundreds of e-mailed responses received in response to the initial article about the Proposition 8 demonstrations, the overwhelming majority were positive.

However, there was a negative response, obviously from a No On 8 supporter, which came as an epiphany – not as the epiphany the writer intended, but as an epiphany of testimony strengthening proportions.

The correspondent's opening volley slammed his point home in reference to the reaction to LDS members involvement in the passage of Proposition 8.

“Really? What did you expect?”

Well, yeah, I guess . . . what did we expect?

Did we expect the Adversary to stay curled in his hole licking his wounds? Did we expect the pointing fingers from Lehi's dream to stop pointing? Did we expect the Adversary's attempts to knock us from the straight and narrow path to simply cease?

What did we expect?

Perhaps a better question is, what should we have expected?

As another correspondent stated, “These are the days we have been warned would come, this is the time we have been being prepared to see, this is the time for greater faith and more earnest prayers, this is the time for us to stand together as witnesses of God and his truths, even if it hurts!”

And another LDS voice sounded clear, “We live in times when sitting on the fence will not be enough. Standing for truth will not be popular or convenient.”

It is certainly not convenient to find ourselves assaulted in so many ways. But as the attacks on our faith increase, as Christianity is derided, diluted, and defamed, we can find strength through our prophets – those who have gone before and issued the warnings of these times, and those who lead us in these latter-days.

Let us not expect the path to be cleared and easy. Our prophets are the trail blazers. We must fix our eyes on them, not on the chaos surrounding us. We must expect difficulties and prepare – there is the key – for them.

Christ expects us to keep him in our hearts, in our countenance, and in our actions. Through him we find the joy that dispels all disillusionment and dismay.

Sunday, November 16, 2008

Hand Written Letters

It's been a great day. Beautiful blue sky, no clouds. But way too hot for November for me! There's just something wrong when it's 90* in November.

Got up and put the brisket in the oven. Got out the door for church.

The RS lesson was so uplifting. It was on letters that Joseph Smith wrote to Emma. I'll bet he never thought they would be in a lesson manual one day! And yet here they are. I gained so many insights from them. What a tender, thoughtful man. Good father. He was probably gone more than he was home, and yet there is no question as to his devotion and love. It lent many insights into Emma as well. I also came away from it with an appreciation for the trials they faced since we have experienced persecution the last few weeks after the election and how they supported each other in them. A phrase, sentence, words of encouragement however small mean so much and can strengthen commitments.

In our day of technology it is easy to forget how much a handwritten letter or note means. Think about it: what is the first thing you open when you get the mail out of the box? You leave the bills for last and jump for the letter or note! Right? They didn't have our quick communication capacities back then, but I'm impressed with Joseph's ability to know just what would make Emma be uplifted.

Home. Dinner, which was soooo good. Haven't had that dish in a while. It was in the freezer and so I used it. I'm trying to be more creative in using what I already have. Kim K. came over with my Enrichment night stuff so she could show me how to do them since she asked if I could help tomorrow night. I was really excited. When she left I dove in and got them ALL done. It makes me feel like I'm more prepared for Christmas since they were all gifts. Then off to take Christine and Amanda to Sing Noel practice. From there I went and visited with a shut in friend and took her some visiting teaching things. She writes to all the sisters in the letter district each month. She does a really good job and she likes feeling like she can contribute and have a calling. Then to Jamie's so she could show me how she does her banners. I am in charge of the family craft this year for Thanksgiving and we will be doing these. They are so cute!

Home. Put some cookies in to bake, flipped through the channels and saw The Notebook was on. It had already started, but I finished it out. It dawned on me that this story is 'hand written' in a journal kind of like the Joseph and Emma letters..... I could watch that over and over.

I should mention that there are fires again. Fortunately not too near us this time. Threatening fire really scares me. I feel so badly for those who have lost their homes and so much of the earth scorched by the wind-driven flames. Darn those Santa Anas that dry everything out and blow like the devil.

Celebrate Patti!

Today is Patti Peterson's birthday. She is Meredith's mom. Mere is my daughter-in-law. I remember Patti's birthday because we have been friends since around the 3rd grade. Yes, can you believe that? And how fun that all these years later our children got married??!!
So, here's to you Patti! I hear the Primary Program went great. (she is the president in her ward) I hope you have a wonderful day and I send all my love.
Happy Birthday to YOU
Happy Birthday to YOU
Happy Birthday, dear Patti--
Happy Birthday to YOU!

It's A Birthday For Little Josh!


Hey, buddy! We hope you have a great day! What are you doing for your birthday? Did you have an angel food cake?

We're Glad It's Your Birthday, Dear Little Josh
Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday To You--
We'll Sing You A Song For Your Birthday:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

Love, Uncle Don, Aunt Cindy, and cousins

Saturday, November 15, 2008

Cracked Pot--A Chinese Proverb

An elderly Chinese woman had two large pots, each hung on the ends of a pole which she carried across her neck.

One of the pots had a crack in it while the other pot was perfect and always delivered a full portion of water.

At the end of the long walks from the stream to the house, the cracked pot arrived only half full.

For a full two years this went on daily, with the woman bringing home only one and a half pots of water.

Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it could only do half of what it had been made to do.
After two years of what it perceived to be bitter failure, it spoke to the woman one day by the stream. 'I am ashamed of myself, because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your house.'

The old woman smiled, 'Did you notice that there are flowers on your side of the path, but not on the other pot's side?' 'That's because I have always known about your flaw, so I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back, you water them.'

'For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate the table. Without you being just the way you are, there would not be this beauty to grace the house.'

Each of us has our own unique flaw. But it's the cracks and flaws we each have that make our lives together so very interesting and rewarding.

You've just got to take each person for what they are and look for the good in them.

A More Determined Discipleship

Neal A. Maxwell, “A More Determined Discipleship,” Ensign, Feb 1979, 69–73
An address delivered at Brigham Young University, 10 October 1978

Speaking to student leaders in higher education, I have often used the analogy that in a university the faculty, staff, and administration are like the “natives,” and the students are like the “tourists.” In many ways, a recurring devotional speaker is more like one of the “natives.” Even so, I thank President Oaks for once again extending this precious privilege to me. You may conclude, however, that I am becoming more like a “tourist,” since today I will try to cover two topics in order to make the most of these fleeting moments.

Discipleship includes good citizenship. In this connection, if you are a careful student of the statements of the modern prophets, you will have noticed that with rare exceptions—especially when the First Presidency has spoken out—the concerns expressed have been over moral issues, not issues between political parties. The declarations are about principles, not people; and causes, not candidates. On occasions, at other levels in the Church, a few have not been so discreet, so wise, or so inspired.

Make no mistake about it, brothers and sisters, in the months and years ahead, events are likely to require each member to decide whether or not he will follow the First Presidency. Members will find it more difficult to halt longer between two opinions. (See 1 Kgs. 18:21.)

President Marion G. Romney said, many years ago, that he had “never hesitated to follow the counsel of the Authorities of the Church even though it crossed my social, professional or political life” (in Conference Report, Apr. 1941, p. 123). This is a hard doctrine, but it is a particularly vital doctrine in a society which is becoming more wicked. In short, brothers and sisters, not being ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ includes not being ashamed of the prophets of Jesus Christ!

We are now entering a time of incredible ironies. Let us cite but one of these ironies which is yet in its subtle stages: We will see a maximum, if indirect, effort made to establish irreligion as the state religion. It is actually a new form of paganism which uses the carefully preserved and cultivated freedoms of western civilization to shrink freedom, even as it rejects the value essence of our rich Judeo-Christian heritage.

M. J. Sobran wrote recently:

“The Framers of the Constitution … forbade the Congress to make any law ‘respecting’ the establishment of religion, thus leaving the states free to do so (as several of them did); and they explicitly forbade the Congress to abridge ‘the free exercise’ of religion, thus giving actual religious observance a rhetorical emphasis that fully accords with the special concern we know they had for religion. It takes a special ingenuity to wring out of this a governmental indifference to religion, let alone an aggressive secularism. Yet there are those who insist that the First Amendment actually proscribes governmental partiality not only to any single religion, but to religion as such; so that tax exemption for churches is now thought to be unconstitutional. It is startling to consider that a clause clearly protecting religion can be construed as requiring that it be denied a status routinely granted to educational and charitable enterprises, which have no overt constitutional protection. Far from equalizing unbelief, secularism has succeeded in virtually establishing it. …

“What the secularists are increasingly demanding, in their disingenuous way, is that religious people, when they act politically, act only on secularist grounds. They are trying to equate acting on religion with establishing religion. And—I repeat—the consequence of such logic is really to establish secularism. It is in fact, to force the religious to internalize the major premise of secularism: that religion has no proper bearing on public affairs.” (Human Life Review, Summer 1978, pp. 51–52, 60–61.)

Brothers and sisters, irreligion as the state religion would be the worst of all combinations. Its orthodoxy would be insistent and its inquisitors inevitable. Its paid ministry would be numerous beyond belief. Its Caesars would be insufferably condescending. Its majorities—when faced with clear alternatives—will make the Barabbas choice, as did a mob centuries ago when Pilate confronted them with the need to decide.

Your discipleship may see the time when such religious convictions are discounted. M. J. Sobran also said, “A religious conviction is now a second-class conviction, expected to step deferentially to the back of the secular bus, and not to get uppity about it” (Human Life Review, Summer 1978, pp. 58–59).

This new irreligious imperialism seeks to disallow certain opinions simply because those opinions grow out of religious convictions. Resistance to abortion will be seen as primitive. Concern over the institution of the family will be viewed as untrendy and unenlightened.

In its mildest form, irreligion will merely be condescending toward those who hold to traditional Judeo-Christian values. In its more harsh forms, as is always the case with those whose dogmatism is blinding, the secular church will do what it can to reduce the influence of those who still worry over standards such as those in the Ten Commandments. It is always such an easy step from dogmatism to unfair play—especially so when the dogmatists believe themselves to be dealing with primitive people who do not know what is best for them—the secular bureaucrats’ burden, you see.

Am I saying that the voting rights of people of religion are in danger? Of course not! Am I saying, “It’s back to the catacombs?” No! But there is occurring a discounting of religiously based opinions. There may even be a covert and subtle disqualification of some for certain offices in some situations, in an ironic irreligious test for office.

If people, however, are not permitted to advocate, to assert, and to bring to bear, in every legitimate way, the opinions and views they hold which grow out of their religious convictions, what manner of men and women would we be?

Our founding fathers did not wish to have a state church established nor to have a particular religion favored by government. They wanted religion to be free to make its own way. But neither did they intend to have irreligion made into a favored state church.

Notice the terrible irony if this trend were to continue. When the secular church goes after its heretics, where are the sanctuaries? To what landfalls and Plymouth Rocks can future pilgrims go?

If we let come into being a secular church which is shorn of traditional and divine values, where shall we go for inspiration in the crises of tomorrow? Can we appeal to the rightness of a specific regulation to sustain us in our hour of need? Will we be able to seek shelter under a First Amendment which by then may have been twisted to favor irreligion? Will we be able to rely for counterforce on value education aided in school systems which are increasingly secularized? And if our governments and schools were to fail us, would we be able to fall back upon and rely upon the institution of the family, when so many secular movements seek to shred it?

It may well be that as our time comes to “suffer shame for his name” (Acts 5:41), some of that special stress will grow out of that portion of discipleship which involves citizenship. Remember, as Nephi and Jacob said, we must learn to endure “the crosses of the world” and yet to despise “the shame of it” (2 Ne. 9: 18; Jacob 1:8). To go on clinging to the iron rod in spite of the mockery and scorn that flow at us from the multitudes in that great and spacious building seen by Father Lehi, which is the “pride of the world” (1 Ne. 11:36)—is to disregard the shame of the world. Parenthetically, why, really why, do the disbelievers who line that spacious building watch so intently what the believers are doing? (See 1 Ne. 8:33.) Surely there must be other things for the scorners to do. Unless deep within their seeming disinterest. … Unless. …

If the challenge of the secular church becomes very real, let us, as in all other relationships, be principled but pleasant. Let us be perceptive without being pompous. Let us have integrity and not write checks with our tongues which our conduct cannot cash.

Before the ultimate victory of the forces of righteousness, some skirmishes will be lost. Even in these, however, let us leave a record so that the choices are clear, letting others do as they will in the face of prophetic counsel.

There will also be times, happily, when a minor defeat seems probable, but others will step forward, having been rallied to rightness by what we do. We will know the joy, on occasion, of having awakened a slumbering majority of the decent people of all races and creeds which was, till then, unconscious of itself.

Jesus said that when the fig trees put forth their leaves, “summer is nigh” (Matt. 24:32). Thus warned that summer is upon us, let us not then complain of the heat!

Have I come today, however, only to add one more to the already long list of special challenges faced by you and me? Not really. I have also come to say to you that God, who foresaw all challenges, has given to us a precious doctrine which can encourage us in meeting this and all other challenges.

The combined doctrine of God’s foreordination is one of the doctrinal roads “least traveled by.” Yet it clearly underlines how very long and how perfectly God has loved us and known us with our individual needs and capacities. Isolated from other doctrines, or mishandled, these truths can stoke the fires of fatalism, impact adversely upon agency, cause us to focus on status rather than service, and carry us over into predestination. President Joseph Fielding Smith once warned:

“It is very evident from a thorough study of the gospel and the plan of salvation that a conclusion that those who accepted the Savior were predestined to be saved no matter what the nature of their lives must be an error. … Surely Paul never intended to convey such a thought. … This might have been one of the passages in Paul’s teachings which cause Peter to declare that there are in Paul’s writings, ‘some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction’ ” (Improvement Era, May 1963, p. 350; see 2 Pet. 3:16).

Paul stressed running life’s race the full distance; he did not intend a casual Christianity in which some had won even before the race started!

Yet, though foreordination is a difficult doctrine, it has been given to us by the living God, through living prophets, for a purpose. It can actually increase our understanding of how crucial this mortal second estate is and can further encourage us in good works. This precious doctrine can also help us go the second mile because we are doubly called.

In some ways, our second estate, in relationship to our first estate, is like agreeing in advance to surgery. Then the anesthetic of forgetfulness settles in upon us. Just as doctors do not de-anesthetize a patient in the midst of authorized surgery to ask him again if the surgery should be continued, so, after divine tutoring, we agreed to come here and to submit ourselves to certain experiences; it was an irrevocable decision.

Of course, when we mortals try to comprehend, rather than accept, foreordination, the result is one in which finite minds futilely try to comprehend omniscience. A full understanding is impossible; we simply have to trust in what the Lord has told us, knowing enough, however, to realize that we are not dealing with guarantees from God but extra opportunities—and heavier responsibilities. If those responsibilities are in some ways linked to past performance or to past capabilities, it should not surprise us. The Lord said:

“There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated—
“And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated” (D&C 130:20–21).


This eternal law prevailed in the first estate as it does in the second estate. It should not disconcert us, therefore, that the Lord has indicated that he chose some individuals before they came here to carry out certain assignments; hence, these individuals have been foreordained to those assignments. “Every man who has a calling to minister to the inhabitants of the world,” said the Prophet Joseph Smith, “was ordained to that very purpose in the Grand Council of heaven before this world was. I suppose I was ordained to this very office in that Grand Council.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 365.)

Foreordination is like any other blessing—it is a conditional bestowal subject to our faithfulness. Prophecies foreshadow events without determining the outcome, because of a divine foreseeing of outcomes. So foreordination is a conditional bestowal of a role, a responsibility, or a blessing which, likewise, foresees but does not fix the outcome.

There have been those who have failed or who have been treasonous to their trust, such as David, Solomon, and Judas. God foresaw the fall of David, but was not the cause of it. It was David who saw Bathsheba from the balcony and sent for her. But neither was God surprised by such a sad development.

God foresaw, but did not cause, Martin Harris’s loss of certain pages of the translated Book of Mormon; God made plans to cope with failure over 1,500 years before it was to occur! (See preface to D&C 10 and W of M)

Thus, foreordination is clearly no excuse for fatalism, or arrogance, or the abuse of agency. It is not, however, a doctrine that can be ignored simply because it is difficult. Indeed, deep inside the hardest doctrines are some of the pearls of greatest price.

The doctrine pertains not only to the foreordination of prophets, but to God’s precise assessment, beforehand, as to each of those who will respond to the words of the Savior and the prophets. From the Savior’s own lips came these words, “I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine” (John 10:14). Similarly the Savior said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (John 10:27). Further, he declared, “And ye are called to bring to pass the gathering of mine elect; for mine elect hear my voice and harden not their hearts” (D&C 29:7).

This responsiveness could not be gauged without divine foreknowledge concerning all mortals and their response to the gospel—which foreknowledge is so perfect it leaves the realm of prediction and enters the realm of prophecy.

The foreseeing of those who will accept the gospel in mortality, gladly and with alacrity, is based upon their parallel responsiveness in the premortal world. No wonder the Lord could say, as he did to Jeremiah, “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; … and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations” (Jer. 1:5). Paul, when writing to the Saints in Rome, said, “God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew” (Rom. 11:2). Paul also said of God that “he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world” (Eph. 1:4).

The Lord, who was able to say to his disciples, “Cast the net on the right side of the ship” (John 21:6), knew beforehand that there was a multitude of fishes there. If he knew beforehand the movements and whereabouts of fishes in the little Sea of Tiberias, should it offend us that he knows beforehand which mortals will come into the gospel net?

It does no violence even to our frail human logic to observe that there cannot be a grand plan of salvation for all mankind, unless there is also a plan for each individual. The salvational sum will reflect all its parts.

Once the believer acknowledges that the past, present, and future are before God simultaneously—even though we do not understand how—then the doctrine of foreordination may be seen somewhat more clearly. For instance, it was necessary for God to know how the economic difficulties and crop failures of the Joseph Smith, Sr. family in New England would move this special family to the Cumorah vicinity where the Book of Mormon plates were buried. God’s plans could scarcely have so unfolded if—willy-nilly—the Smiths had been born Manchurians and if, meanwhile, the plates had been buried in Belgium!

The Lord would need to have perfect comprehension of all the military and political developments in the Middle East—some of which are unfolding even now—which would combine to bring to pass a latter-day condition in which “all nations” will be gathered “against Jerusalem to battle” (Zech. 14:2).

It should not surprise us that the Lord, who notices the fall of each sparrow and the hair from every head, would know centuries before how much money Judas would receive—thirty pieces of silver—at the time he betrayed the Savior. (See Matt. 26:15, Matt. 27:3, Zech. 11:12.)

Quite understandably, the manner in which things unfold seems to us mortals to be so natural. Our not knowing what is to come (in the perfect way that God knows it) thus preserves our free agency completely.

When, through a process we call inspiration and revelation, we are permitted at times to tap that divine databank, we are accessing, for the narrow purposes at hand, the knowledge of God. No wonder that experience is so unforgettable!

There are clearly special cases of individuals with special limitations in life, which conditions we mortals cannot now fully fathom. For all we now know, the seeming limitations may have been an agreed-upon spur to achievement—a “thorn in the flesh” (2 Cor. 12:7). Like him who was “blind from birth,” some come to bring glory to God (John 9:1–2). We must be exceedingly careful about imputing either wrong causes or wrong rewards to all in such circumstances. They are in the Lord’s hands, and he loves them perfectly. Indeed, some of those who have required much waiting upon in this life may be waited upon again by the rest of us in the next world—but for the highest of reasons!

Thus, when we are elected to certain mortal chores, we are elected “according to the foreknowledge of God the Father” (1 Pet. 1:2). When Abraham was advised that he was “chosen before thou wast born,” he was among the “noble and great ones” (Abr. 3:22–23). Through the revelation given to us by the prophet Joseph F. Smith, we read that the Prophet Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, “and other choice spirits” were also reserved by God “to come forth in the fulness of times to take part in laying the foundations of the great latter-day work” (D&C 138:53.) These individuals are among the rulers that Abraham had described to him centuries earlier by God. They were to be “rulers in the Church of God,” (D&C 138:55), not necessarily rulers in the secular kingdoms. Thus, those seen by Abraham were the Pauls, not the Ceasars; the Spencer W. Kimballs, not the Churchills. Wise secular leaders do much lasting and commendable good, but Paul observed to the saints in Corinth that (as the world measured greatness and wisdom) “not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called” (1 Cor. 1:26).

President Joseph Fielding Smith said,

“In regard to the holding of the priesthood in the pre-existence, I will say that there was an organization there just as well as an organization here, and we there held authority. Men chosen to positions of trust in the spirit world held the priesthood.” (Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1956, Vol. 3, p. 81.)

Alma speaks about foreordination with great effectiveness and links it to the foreknowledge of God and, perhaps, even to our previous performance (see Alma 13:3–5).

The omniscience of God made it possible, therefore, for him to determine the boundaries and times of nations (see Acts 17:26; Deut. 32:8).

Elder Orson Hyde said of our life in the premortal world, “We understood things better there than we do in this lower world.” He also surmised as to the agreements we made there that “it is not impossible that we signed the articles thereof with our own hands,—which articles may be retained in the archives above, to be presented to us when we rise from the dead, and be judged out of our own mouths, according to that which is written in the books.” Just because we have forgotten, said Elder Hyde, “our forgetfulness cannot alter the facts.” (Journal of Discourses, 7:314–15.) Hence, the degree of detail involved in the covenants and promises we participated in at that time may be a more highly customized thing than many of us surmise. Yet, on occasion, even with our forgetting, there are inklings. President Joseph F. Smith said:

“But in coming here, we forgot all, that our agency might be free indeed, to choose good or evil, that we might merit the reward of our own choice and conduct. But by the power of the Spirit, in the redemption of Christ, through obedience, we often catch a spark from the awakened memories of the immortal soul, which lights up our whole being as with the glory of our former home” (Gospel Doctrine, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1977, pp. 13–14; italics added).

As indicated earlier, this powerful teaching of foreordination is bound to be a puzzlement in some respects, if we do not have faith and trust in the Lord. Yet if we think about it, even within our finite framework of experience, it shouldn’t startle us. Mortal parents are reasonably good at predicting the behavior of their children in certain circumstances. Of this Elder James E. Talmage wrote:

“Our Heavenly Father has a full knowledge of the nature and disposition of each of His children, a knowledge gained by long observation and experience in the past eternity of our primeval childhood; a knowledge compared with which that gained by earthly parents through mortal experience with their children is infinitesimally small. By reason of that surpassing knowledge, God reads the future of child and children, of men individually and of men collectively as communities and nations; He knows what each will do under given conditions, and sees the end from the beginning. His foreknowledge is based on intelligence and reason. He foresees the future as a state which naturally and surely will be; not as one which must be because He has arbitrarily willed that it shall be.” (James E. Talmage, Jesus the Christ, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1977, p. 29.)

Another helpful analogy for students is the reality that universities can and do predict with a high degree of accuracy the grades entering students will receive in their college careers based upon certain tests and past performances. If mortals can do this with reasonable accuracy (even with our short span of familiarity and with finite data), God the Father, who knows us perfectly, surely can foresee how we will respond to various challenges.

While we often do not rise to our opportunities, God is neither pleased nor surprised. But we cannot say to him later on that we could have achieved had we just been given the chance! This is all part of the justice of God.

One of the most helpful—indeed, very necessary—parallel truths to be pondered when studying this powerful doctrine of foreordination is given in the revelation of the Lord to Moses in which the Lord says, “And all things are present with me, for I know them all” (Moses 1:6). God does not live in the dimension of time as do we. Moreover, since “all things are present with” God, his is not simply a predicting based solely upon the past. In ways which are not clear to us, he actually sees, rather than foresees,the future—because all things are, at once, present, before him!

In a revelation given to the Prophet Joseph Smith, the Lord describes himself as “the same which knoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes” (D&C 38:2). From the prophet Nephi we receive the same basic insight in which we likewise must trust: “But the Lord knoweth all things from the beginning; wherefore, he prepareth a way to accomplish all his works among the children of men” (1 Ne. 9:6).

It was by divine design that the marvelous Mary became the mother of Jesus. Further, Lucy Mack Smith, who played such a crucial role in the rearing of Joseph Smith, did not come to that assignment by chance.

One of the dimensions of worshipping a living God is to know that he is alive and living in the sense of seeing and acting. He is not a retired God whose best years are past—to whom we should pay a retroactive obeisance, worshipping him for what he has already done. He is the living God who is, at once, in the dimensions of the past and present and future, while we labor constrained by the limitations of time itself.

It is imperative that we always keep in mind the caveats noted earlier, so that we do not indulge ourselves or our whims simply because of the presence of this powerful doctrine of foreordination, for with special opportunities come special responsibilities and much greater risks.

But the doctrine of foreordination properly understood and humbly pursued can help us immensely in coping with the vicissitudes of life. Otherwise, time can play so many tricks upon us. We should always understand that while God is not surprised, we often are.
Life’s episodes may thus take on new meaning. For instance, Simon, the Cyrenian, wandered into Jerusalem on the very day of Christ’s crucifixion and was pressed into service by Roman soldiers to help carry the Savior’s cross. Simon’s son, Rufus, joined the Church and was so well thought of by the Apostle Paul that the latter mentioned Rufus in his epistle to the Romans, describing him as “chosen in the Lord” (Rom. 16:13). Was it, therefore, a mere accident that Simon “who passed by, coming out of the country,” was asked to bear the cross of Jesus? (Mark 15:21).

Properly humbled and instructed concerning the great privileges that are ours, we can cope with what seem to be very dark days, and with true perspective about “things as they really are,” we can see in them a great chance to contribute. Churchill, in trying to rally his countrymen in an address at Harrow School on 29 October 1941, said to them:

“Do not let us speak of darker days; let us speak rather of sterner days. These are not dark days: these are great days—the greatest days our country has ever lived; and we must all thank God that we have been allowed, each of us according to our stations, to play a part in making these days memorable in the history of our race.” (Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations, p. 923.)

So should we regard the dispensation of the fulness of time—even when we face stern challenges and circumstances. “These are great days”! Our hearts need not fail us. We can be equal to our challenges, including the aforementioned challenge of the secular church!

The truth about foreordination also helps us to taste of the deep wisdom of Alma, when he said we ought to be content with things that God hath allotted to each of us (see Alma 29:3–4) If, indeed, the things allotted to each of us have been divinely customized according to our ability and capacity, then for us to seek to wrench ourselves free of our schooling circumstances could be to tear ourselves away from carefully matched opportunities. To rant and to rail could be to go against divine wisdom, wisdom in which we may once have concurred before we came here. God knew beforehand each of our coefficients for coping and contributing.

President Henry D. Moyle said:

“I believe that we, as fellow workers in the priesthood, might well take to heart the admonition of Alma and be content with that which God hath allotted us. We might well be assured that we had something to do with our ‘allotment’ in our preexistent state. This would be an additional reason for us to accept our present condition and make the best of it. It is what we agreed to do.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1952, p. 71.)

By the way, the things “allotted” do not include a bad temper or deficiencies of a developmental variety.

What a vastly different view Of life the doctrine of foreordination gives to us! Shorn of this perspective, others are puzzled or bitter about life. Without gospel perspective, life is like trying to play a game of billiards on a table with a rumpled cloth, with a crooked cue, and an elliptical billiard ball. Perhaps the moral of that analogy is that we should stay out of pool halls! In any event, pessimism does not see life or the universe as these things “really are.”
The disciple will be puzzled at times, too. But he persists. Later he rejoices and exclaims over how wonderfully things fit together, realizing, only then, that with God—things never were apart!

Jacob said the Spirit teaches us the truth “of things as they really are, and … really will be” (Jacob 4:13) Centuries later Paul said, “The Spirit searcheth … the deep things of God” (1 Cor. 2:10). Of some of these deep things we have spoken today and of how things really are.
Brothers and sisters, in some of those precious and personal moments of discovery, there will be a sudden surge of recognition of an immortal insight, a doctrinal deja vu. We will sometimes experience a flash from the mirror of memory that beckons us forward to a far horizon.
When, in situations of stress, we wonder if there is any more in us to give, we can be comforted to know that God, who knows our capacities perfectly, placed us here to succeed. No one was foreordained to fail or to be wicked.

When we have been weighed and found wanting, let us remember that we were measured before and were found equal to our tasks; and therefore, let us continue but with a more determined discipleship.

When we feel overwhelmed, let us recall the assurance that God will not overprogram us; he will not press upon us more than we can bear (see D&C 50:40).

The doctrine of foreordination is, therefore, not a doctrine of repose; it is a doctrine for the second-milers; it can draw out of us the last full measure of devotion.

It is a doctrine of perspiration—not aspiration. Moreover, it discourages aspiring, lest we covet, like two early disciples, that which has already been given to another (see Matt. 20:20–23).
It is a doctrine for the deep believer and will only bring scorn from the skeptic.

When, as President Joseph F. Smith said, we “catch a spark from the awakened memories of the immortal soul,” let us be quietly grateful. When of great truths we can say, “I know,” that powerful spiritual witness may also carry with it the sense of our having known before! With rediscovery, we are really saying “I know—again!”No Wonder so often real teaching is reminding.

God bless you and keep you, my special friends, to the end that you will carry out each and every assignment given to you so very long ago. You have been measured and found adequate for the challenges that will face you as citizens of the kingdom of God; of that you should have a deep inner assurance. Be true to that trust, as all of us must, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.